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Dear internet and everyone else going flail over Disney buying Marvel:

These are the same people who owned Dimension Films at the time it produced the Sin City movie. Yes, the one with the hookers and the guns and the swearing and the decapitations and Frank Miller's sticky fingerprints all over it. I very much doubt they're going to try castrating the Punisher to make him more kid friendly.

Chill out and go play some Kingdom Hearts or something.

Sincerely,

Someone who should be doing her homework.

P.S.: You can keep going with the crossover fanart, though.

Date: 2009-09-02 08:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cassildra.livejournal.com
Stupid people are irritating.

Date: 2009-09-02 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com
I wouldn't call it stupid, it's just kneejerky. That and everyone seems to have forgotten Pirates of the Caribbean and all the nightmare fuel that trilogy pumped out.

Date: 2009-09-02 08:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reiko-sazanami.livejournal.com
AGREED AGREED AGREED!

I'm glad someone else is sick of the "OMG THEY"RE GOING TO PUSSIFY MARVEL CHARACTERS!1!!!!111 BAAAAAAWWW!!!" going down in a million communities. Also, Marvel =/= adults only. Just check the toy or clothing section of ANY major chain; there's kiddie stuff everywhere, Spiderman and the X-Men have been marketed to kids for years now >_> I highly doubt Disney would dump a huge adult market to focus on kids when they already HAVE strong kid markets o_o; Disney is a family company at face value, but their subsidiaries cover the whole gamut.

(Though now all I can see is Deadpool in Kingdom Hearts)

Date: 2009-09-02 08:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com
Heck, common public perception still is that comics are for kids, despite the fact that they really haven't been for quite a while.

Deadpool in Kingdom Hearts would rock.

Date: 2009-09-03 12:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-s-guy.livejournal.com
Deadpool vs Demyx.

Date: 2009-09-02 08:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] penguinfaery.livejournal.com
Word. I have no idea why anyone would assume that Disney would come in and trash everything marvel has built up. It's a horrible business move, for one thing, so even if you think Disney is a soul destroying money maker (Which....you probably have a point) that would lose them money.

Also, I am down with this deadpool/kingdom hearts. I would like to also suggest Wolverine should meet Cloud.
Edited Date: 2009-09-02 08:53 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-02 09:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com
Disney's got its corporate fingers in a hundred pies at this point, the kid-friendly market is only part of their business.

Date: 2009-09-03 01:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doctoreon.livejournal.com
You know you can count on me.

Date: 2009-09-03 01:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faithinfire.livejournal.com
OTOH, the number of people whose primary reaction to this seems to be "Marvel in KH3 zomg!!!11!!1!" is a bit disconcerting too. Kingdom Hearts: the willitblend.com of fandom?

Date: 2009-09-03 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com
*brb, dying of lol*

I'm not sure it would quite fit...but then again, that's what they said about Disney and Final Fantasy and look where we are.

Date: 2009-09-03 08:56 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faithinfire.livejournal.com
It was a serious point, though. I'm a bit surprised that nobody's looking past "oh, more merchandise and KH3!" to consider genuine potential downsides of this. I'm not saying I expect to see the Punisher patting small children on the head, obviously. What I am a mite concerned about is that Marvel has always had a habit of printing many bad ideas to one good one, financially speaking, and using big property like Spidey and X-Men to cover the costs of any number of little characters (really, look at that lot!) who hang around on the periphery. My main fear is that Disney will look at that, see a model that doesn't on the face of it look too smart, and tell the creative team to focus on the known, marketable moneymakers and put less into everything else. Which will result in stagnation, bored fans, and fewer up-and-coming young superheroes for audiences to potentially latch on to - and in the long run, that won't pay off. (Although it's arguable that Marvel are quite capable of making that mistake on their own, of course. >.> )

And on another tack, the whole "but Disney own Miramax/Sin City/Kill Bill!" argument isn't really the point. That subdivision isn't the first thing you think of when someone says Disney, let's face it. The first thing you think of, almost certainly, is cartoon mice, animated princesses, theme park rides, and maybe PotC. Or Fantasia, or Kingdom Hearts, or whichever was your favourite/whichever your younger friends and relatives subjected you to the most.

But still, you think of bright colours, young audiences, and a certain... rather forced wholesomeness. There may even be Elton John songs in the background. I'm not saying that that's all there is to Disney, since it obviously isn't - but that's the public image of Disney, the Disney brand if you will, and I can see why that doesn't rest too comfortably in the same bed as Marvel, or at least some sections of Marvel. I think most people who are really upset are reacting on a gut level without knowing quite why - but I suspect that what's actually upsetting their guts, is that. And I can sympathise with it, to be honest.

And on a final note, one thing I haven't seen ANYONE ask yet - does this mean Disney now own Gen 1? Or at least its comic iteration? O_O

Date: 2009-09-03 02:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com
Considering we already have a Mickey Mouse Transformer...

I understand the gut reaction, but at the same time I don't feel it's connected to any degree of rationality. Even under the Disney name Disney's come up with some weird shit (Bambi's mom's death, Pirates of the Caribbean, Nightmare Before Christmasn, Chernabog, not to mention whatever the fuck this is.). It's associated with wholesomeness up front, but at the core it's associated with money. And pissing off their fanbase means less money, as you'd think Marvel would know by now.
Edited Date: 2009-09-03 02:42 pm (UTC)

Date: 2009-09-03 03:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] faithinfire.livejournal.com
I don't have a leg to stand on when it comes to Fantasia, I will admit that. >.>

Date: 2009-09-03 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] seiberwing.livejournal.com
Fantasia had harpy nipples. Half a second of harpy nipples, but still.

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