Blech, fundies.

[seiberwing]

So yesterday was my last day of work at the lab. That's not what I'm here to talk about.

THIS is what I'm here to talk about.

Now, I like my state. The bit I live in is gorgeous and we get fresh sweet corn in the summer. People actually let you in front of them in traffic.

But I could do without the fundies. This message popped up on the sign on the church near my parents' house yesterday.

(And yeah, we're Jews, although I don't think it was actually directed at us.)

I was torn between loling (seriously, exactly how many actual Jews would be there), being offended, actually going just out of curiosity, and considering nailing purple triangular matzah to their door. My dad sent the picture of it to our rabbi, who's asking if we should all write the pastor about how offensive it is. Don't know if they've actually done anything.

My mom called them up to explain that it was offensive what they did thar and to explain what Jews actually believed. The conversation apparently went down like this.

Mom: *explains what Jews really think and that putting up a sign like that is offensive and annoying*
Preacher: *oh, but we love the Jews! * *why don't y'all come down sometime?*
Mom: Look, you've been good neighbors all these years, but right now you're not being good neighbors. This is offensive.
Preacher: Do you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal lord and savior?
Mom: That's--
Preacher: Just answer the question.
Mom: We're Jews, Preacher _____. No, I don't.
Preacher: Then you're offending ME! This is a free country and I have the right to freedom of religion!
Mom: *-_-* I don't suppose I could come down to explain our beliefs, could I?
Preacher: Oh, we don't let women get up to preach. It ain't right.
Mom: Wait, what? *wtf where did the feminism go*
Preacher: Well, y'all don't have female rabbis, right?
Mom: Actually, one of the local synagogues has a female rabbi. *pwn*
Preacher: ... *click!*

So yeah, the lolz have disappeared from my mind and the matzah option begins to look more promising. Still just as illegal to put nails in the door, though, which leaves me with ignoring them or actually going over there.

Although a polite "sermon crashing", so to speak, would be interesting, especially if I could talk at least one male friend into coming... *pokes viragostonewall, if you're interested*

Comments

[revelininsanity.livejournal.com]

Wait... What exactly do they mean by that?

hmmm...

Maybe you should just let their incoherence speak for itself, because I am sitting here asking people, "WTF does that mean?"

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

What does what mean?

[revelininsanity.livejournal.com]

What are they trying to advertise? Seriously. Is this an American thing? Or am I just a moron?

I see the mission thingy. So, are they trying to figure out a way to convert Jewish people to being Christian?

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

They're advertising something by a guy who claims to have converted many of them heathen Jews. And yes, that's exactly it.

[revelininsanity.livejournal.com]

EW! That's pretty assholish.

You know, I seriously don't get why a religion that bases it's major holiday around the fact that its leader died that day(and not the day he came back to life) would have the nerve to try to convert people.

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

I suppose it's a nice thought, if they think we're going to hell otherwise. Still offensive and dumb, though.

[revelininsanity.livejournal.com]

Well, that's kind of the whole point behind the Crusades, too, like, if they didn't convert the Muslims and Jews living in the Holy Land, then they'd all go to hell.

Look how well that turned out.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, you're right. It is nice. Unfortunately, it's more dumb and offensive than it is nice.

*tiny nitpick*

[oasis-pink-peng.livejournal.com]

Easter DOES celebrate the day Jesus came back to life. He died on Good Friday.


I agree, the whole thing is assholish. Jesus WAS a Jew.

[raisedbymoogles.livejournal.com]

...kill it with FIRE.

The fire of REASON.

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

Sometimes I wish cutting logic really did.

[flamesword.livejournal.com]

XD I love that you have this under the 'crazy fans' tag. Seriously, fundies are their own fandom. And they are all batshit.

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

The Jesus fandom has more batshit crazies than the Harry Potter fandom, I tell ya.

[flamesword.livejournal.com]

Unfortunately, that is completely true. Grew up fundie and they still baffle me. Just...what?

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

It's even more bizarre when you're a Jew and see it from the outside.

[flamesword.livejournal.com]

I bet. Though I sometimes wonder if Jewish people would find me wearing the Star of David just as offensive when I'm not Jewish...I wear it in support of Israel but mostly I just get asked if I'm Jewish. I'm like....no, you might have noticed I'm wearing a cross too? I'm not christian, either, at least not precisely. The cross is complicated but it has reasons, too.

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

I saw a woman wearing it who was Christian, can't remember why...

It seems a little weird, to me. Would make more sense if it was an Israeli flag.

[cutiebirdgal.livejournal.com]

Man, I myself am Christian (more in belief than practice, but there you go) and I don't get it either. I believe in leaving people alone unless they're infringing on the rights and happiness of others. If they want to go be Jewish or homosexual or atheist or whatever fundies are railing against, who am I (or anyone else, for that matter) to tell them that they're 'wrong?'

*sighs at people with incomprehensible and frequently annoying causes*

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

It's been documented that it's easier to hold a group together when they have a specific and immediate foe to stand together against and fight. If they run out of foes, they lose solidarity.

[cutiebirdgal.livejournal.com]

True. It'd be nicer if their foes were gang members or drug addicts, people who actually need help.

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

They have trouble picking foes who need help.

[cutiebirdgal.livejournal.com]

That's pretty sad. *emo sigh*

[navigatorsghost.livejournal.com]

Nails are illegal, but I don't think blu-tack is... *wink* *evil grin*

And FYI, I have several of my resident Chaos Marines behind me wanting to know if they can go and help you, uh, voice your opinion. "They want heathens to convert? We'll GIVE them heathens! ^__^"

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

Chaos Marines would tend to give people pause for thought. *loads cannons with explanatory pamphlets*

[tarajcl.livejournal.com]

Mom: *-_-* I don't suppose I could come down to explain our beliefs, could I?
Preacher: Oh, we don't let women get up to preach. It ain't right.

Explaining your religion counts as preaching now. Oh, fundies. You crazy bastards. (Hi.)

[seiberwing.livejournal.com]

Hey, you exist again! *waves at*